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Michele
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Certified Equine Dentist

Postby Michele » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:39 am

Does anyone know of a certified equine dentist around the Edmonton area? I'm in desperate need of one.
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Postby ChelseyLee » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:28 am

Hi Michele,

I know of a guy around this area that is really good and has taken a lot of training. He does a lot of our friend's horses and stuff...

The only problem is that he can't use the drugs and that you would need to call the vet out for Trank or something...

Personally I like taking my horses to a particular vet It costs $125

If you are interested in contacting either...I can get you the info

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Postby KD » Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:38 pm

Hi,
I know of a great horse dentist, he does tons of work all over, Alta, Sask and Man. He does quite a bit of travelling so I"m sure it wouldn't be a problem to go to the Edmonton area. He does a lot of work on the tracks. Anyone around our area won't use anybody but him. I've taken my horses to the vet before to get their teeth done, but it doesn't compare to the work he can do and the difference you can see in your horse. He has all the drugs too, so it's all handled in one shot. The price varies on what kind of problems your horse may have, but usually is around $100-$150. If you are interested let me know and I can give you his name and number. He comes highly recommended!
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Postby Double D » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:51 pm

It is quite illegal for a layperson to administer tranq on your horse and at least if there are any complications and the work is done by a veterinarian they can be held liable, lay people (dentists) don't have a governing body that hold them accountable.

I just happen to know several very qualified Equine Vet's in Edmonton that do a great job on teeth. You can PM me if you'd like the contact info.
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Horse Dentists

Postby Renegade » Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:33 pm

When it comes to getting your horses teeth done, my opinion is don't waste your time with a vet. Once you have taken your horse to an Equine Dentist you will realize what I am talking about. I would recomend *an Equine Dentist* from Turner Valley. He is willing to travel and accomodate your needs. He is more expensive than a vet. But he really explains what he is doing very well so it makes sense to you. You have no idea what goes on in your horses mouth-until he shows you any problems that they might be having and how it will affect their performance. He will also let you put you arm in their and feel all of the sharp edges etc. then once he is finished he lets you feel again to show you what it should feel like. I had him do my horses this Spring and I know that I feel way better going into the rodeo season knowing that their teeth have been done correctly and their is no doubt that if I have any problems throughout the year-their teeth aren't it. It is definately worth the $$$. :wink:

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Postby KD » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:07 pm

Renegade, I totally agree with everything you just said! An equine dentist is the the way to go, much favored over a vet. They can make such a difference in your horses performance. And our horses definatly thank us, when you see some of the stuff they have to fix in there. And what I find beneficial also about an equine dentist is that they do take the time to explain what they are doing and our dentist also checks the geldings for beans and that while the horse is out.
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Postby rockinm » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:37 pm

I'm all for equine dentists! We don't go to our doctor to get our teeth worked on...

I just wish my insurance policy wasn't void when my dentist works on my horse! No one other than a vet is allowed to tranq...(legally). It is a chance I'm willing to take to have a horse that will perform better. Vets are certainly less money, but you get what you pay for in this case in my opinion!

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Postby Renegade » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:41 pm

Hello rocknm,
I don't know which dentist you are using. The one that I use always has a vet on hand to do the sedating. Of course he has several that he works with all of the time. It might be worth checking into, then your insurance wouldn't be void.
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Postby burnin' » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:53 pm

I don't know about you guys, but I sure wouldn't be going to a "dentist" that isn't a "DOC"... why would you put your horses through that??

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Postby rockinm » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:24 pm

I don't know which dentist you are using. The one that I use always has a vet on hand to do the sedating. Of course he has several that he works with all of the time. It might be worth checking into, then your insurance wouldn't be void


I really really like my vet for everything but teeth. The dentist I use doesn't have a vet with him and I am very comfortable with his abilities in sedating my horses (as much as I would be my horse). I'm not sure its worth risking offending my vet to tell him I use someone else. I have no idea where he stands on the subject politically and ethically.

I don't know about you guys, but I sure wouldn't be going to a "dentist" that isn't a "DOC"... why would you put your horses through that??


Put your horses through what?

Were not talking about some hick runnin around knocking out teeth here. These are professional dentists who are trained. The most trauma my horse likely went through was the time between when I had a vet to do her teeth and when I got them properly done by a professional equine dentist.

Most vets have far less dental training and experience than professional equine dentists. These folks that are specialists in teeth may not have Dr. in front of there name, but from what I have experienced have far more knowledge in their area of specialty than a vet. My doctor probably took three days of class on teeth just like the vets, but he doesn't fill my cavaties. Get my drift..?

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Postby Double D » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:50 pm

Well this has been for some time and will continually be a very debated issue. It is a matter of opinion but I think that making a statement like 'don't waste your time on a veterinarian' is a very harsh one. I have had both an 'equine dentist' and veterinarian do my horses teeth and had positive results from both.

I choose to go to a vet, anyone who knows me knows why, cause he's a hottie. :D :) :D :P Not only that but while a veterinarian looks into my horses mouth he is also checking for other medical conditions that may be present i.e. a tooth abscess, that could possibly have further implications. My veterinarian also checks for beans while the horse is sedated, also checking for other medical conditions.

Anyone can make up a business card and call them self an 'equine dentist' not anyone can make up a business card calling them self an equine veterinarian, there is no governing body over equine dentists and therefore they aren't held accountable or to any standard of practice other than there own work ethic, there is no required amount of training, no anotomy classes required. When someone is in my horses mouth working that close to many important parts I'm comforted knowing thay know the entire anotomy of my horses head. There have been instances where vets have seen a horses mouth mutilated by an 'equine dentist' and vice versa. I think it all boils down to do your homework before you go to anyone to have your horses teeth done. Be sure that you are taking them to a reputable, established place.


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Postby klks » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:57 pm

A dentist can administer the tranq if you request him to be your agent. He should give you a little speech before he begins any work that tells you that you have three options. One if you wish to use a vet you must call one and have the vet present, two you can adminster the drug yourself or three you can ask him to act on your behalf and administer it for you. This is their loophole to avoid any legalities if something were to go wrong.

There is a free newspaper for horse ads, I can't remember what it is called its like a bargain finder for horses. The dentist that we use writes really good informative articles for this paper. If you happen to find the paper read his articles he really goes into the fine points of dentistry and explains why if your horse hurts in one part of his mouth he will react in a certain way. He is also great about explaining everything while he works and will send you home with a pile of info when he is done.

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Postby rockinm » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:31 am

There have been instances where vets have seen a horses mouth mutilated by an 'equine dentist' and vice versa. I think it all boils down to do your homework before you go to anyone to have your horses teeth done. Be sure that you are taking them to a reputable, established place.


Good point tbuss! I guess I am lucky to have found a good one and never have had my horse mutilated by either a vet or dentist. I guess I take for granted how lucky I am to have access to an equine dentist who has taken anatomy classes and is familiar with medical conditions accociated with teeth and checks for beans too :wink:

I've never heard of anyone in my area nor have I experienced any mutilation by a vet or an equine dentist so I guess I should consider myself lucky. I have tried different "recommended" vets to do my horses teeth (mostly because I'm cheap and they are half the price). But every time I get half the job. That's what makes me so "closed" minded I guess. To those of you who have vets you feel are doing an excellent job - don't take it for granted - you are lucky! And those of you whose vet is HOT on top of all that you are even more lucky!!! :lol: I get icky shivers thinking of mine that way...not so hot....

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Postby burnin' » Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:12 pm

I am only saying that I would always like to have the confidence of a veterinarian in case of reactions to drugs, etc. , I have seen such reactions occur and the outcome is usually worth lots of money in legal fees and the loss of a horse... I use a veterinarian that I am very confident in and has always done a good job on my horses!! Personal opinion I guess....

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Postby Michele » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:16 pm

Oops! I kinda opened up a can of worms!

tbuss I have to say being married to your vet must be very handy. Or is it like being married to your farrier - your horse gets done last! Anyway your hubby is my favorite vet and he is definitely a hottie (don't tell him I said that!)
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