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Dancen
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Bleeders

Postby Dancen » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:03 pm

My mare has "bled" a few times this fall. Once in warm up proir to running barrels and again a week ago after she played out her version of the kentucky derby in her pasture! Both times it was out the same nostril (never out both) After the last bleed I took her to Dr. Leguillette ( Respiratory Specialist) at More & Co. He scoped the guttural pouches and found no sign of blood, nor was there any signs further down her wind pipe. He said because she only bled out of one nostril it would have not came from the lungs there fore he did not scope them. His next concern was that it was coming from a her sinuses, meaning a tumor like mass, so off to the xray room we go. Nothing showed up in the xray, thank god!!! So with the scope and the xrays showing no problems the vet thinks she has an weak blood vessel just inside her nostril..... $650 dollars later!

I am wondering if anyone has had this problem? Has anyone had horse bleed from the lungs but only out one nostril?
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Re: Bleeders

Postby weder » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:28 pm

Yup, all 3 times my gelding has bled, it has only been out of one nostril, and he was scoped and confirmed that it was from his lungs. If you want more info on what I went through and what we are using for treatment, you can send me a message on Facebook or on here :-D

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Re: Bleeders

Postby Flaman » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:43 pm

Hi, this could be a guttural pouch mycosis, which is a fungal infection in the guttural pouch which erodes the internal carotid artery wall thus causing the bleeding after exercise, this was my horses' symptom. Google this and read to see if you think your horse has these symptoms, it can be treated successfully if treated early.
I had a gelding with bright red blood trickling out of his nose last year post exercise, called my vet and he said stop any exercise STAT and when we scoped him, found the fungal infection, inserted a urinary catheter into each guttural pouch and sutured them to the nostril and blew the catheter balloons up with saline (to hold them in place). Once a day for 14 days I had to deflate the balloons and flush sterile water into each tube, this was to clear up the fungal infection in the pouches. I was able to do on the farm treatment as the horse was quiet and allowed me to treat him, some horses hate this and will try to rub the catheters out of their nose and have to be kept inside or at a clinic for treatment. It worked well and a year later, he is fine and have not had a recurrance.

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Re: Bleeders

Postby Dancen » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:49 pm

Flaman wrote:Hi, this could be a guttural pouch mycosis, which is a fungal infection in the guttural pouch which erodes the internal carotid artery wall thus causing the bleeding after exercise, this was my horses' symptom. Google this and read to see if you think your horse has these symptoms, it can be treated successfully if treated early.
I had a gelding with bright red blood trickling out of his nose last year post exercise, called my vet and he said stop any exercise STAT and when we scoped him, found the fungal infection, inserted a urinary catheter into each guttural pouch and sutured them to the nostril and blew the catheter balloons up with saline (to hold them in place). Once a day for 14 days I had to deflate the balloons and flush sterile water into each tube, this was to clear up the fungal infection in the pouches. I was able to do on the farm treatment as the horse was quiet and allowed me to treat him, some horses hate this and will try to rub the catheters out of their nose and have to be kept inside or at a clinic for treatment. It worked well and a year later, he is fine and have not had a recurrance.


Thanks forthe info, we did scope the pouches, they were clean.
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Re: Bleeders

Postby Flaman » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:55 pm

My horse never had blood in the pouches either, just a fungal infection, ask your vet if he was looking for this or not. Blood or discharge from one nostril is usually due to guttural pouch issues. Might not hurt to get another opinion, or at least read the info on the internet about the mycosis and see if it sounds like what your horse has. Hope everything goes well.

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Re: Bleeders

Postby Dancen » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:57 pm

Flaman wrote:My horse never had blood in the pouches either, just a fungal infection, ask your vet if he was looking for this or not. Blood or discharge from one nostril is usually due to guttural pouch issues. Might not hurt to get another opinion, or at least read the info on the internet about the mycosis and see if it sounds like what your horse has. Hope everything goes well.


No signs of blood or infection, but i will for sure do some reading. Thanks!
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