BRN4D Jackpots vs ABRA Jackpots format.

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BRN4D Jackpots vs ABRA Jackpots format.

Postby jmonti » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:51 pm

I am curious to know opinions on running BRN4D vs ABRA formats.
I host a series in Southern Alberta and it was suggested that a .5 second split was not enough time to give for people who are running colts. In some ways I agree and in other ways I think it's a goal they could strive to gain throughout the series.
We use a standard pattern - which is quite large for colts so, I'm asking for opinions to gain some perspective.

What do you think should be run on a standard pattern? 1 second split, .7 second split, or a .5 second split?
If we go with BRN4D the format choices are as follows:
For example Fast time being a 18.3:
Option 1 (.5 split)
18.3
18.8
19.3
19.8
Option 2 (.5, .5, 1 split)
18.3
18.8
19.3
20.3
Do you think that a .5 second split is enough time to give our colt riders in a 4D format? Do you think that a fast time plus .5, .5, .5 or a fast time plus .5, .5 and 1 is fair?

If we go with ABRA it is a 7/10 split in the open and a 1 second split in the youth. How many of you would like to see a 7/10 split in the open? Or a 1 second split in the open?

I guess I'm wanting to know what exactly is the fairest way to format a standard pattern? Think about it and I'm super open to all opinions as in the end, we want it to be as fair as possible to all competitors weather they bring seasoned horses or colts.

bri
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Re: BRN4D Jackpots vs ABRA Jackpots format.

Postby bri » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:46 am

Before changing I would look at your previous race results and see if it is evenly spread out or not between the D's. If you have a lot of people that are ending up in the 4D it may be better to switch to one of the formats that pushes the 4d further out. I have been disappointed at races even as a person who runs 1 or 2d times with the 7/10th split as it put the majority of people in the 1d and only a few in 3 or 4d.

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Re: BRN4D Jackpots vs ABRA Jackpots format.

Postby jmonti » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:06 pm

Did you find this disappointment with a standard pattern or a smaller pattern?


bri wrote:Before changing I would look at your previous race results and see if it is evenly spread out or not between the D's. If you have a lot of people that are ending up in the 4D it may be better to switch to one of the formats that pushes the 4d further out. I have been disappointed at races even as a person who runs 1 or 2d times with the 7/10th split as it put the majority of people in the 1d and only a few in 3 or 4d.

bri
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Re: BRN4D Jackpots vs ABRA Jackpots format.

Postby bri » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:43 pm

These were on standard patterns. Only has been a couple places, but when you looked at the printed results over half of the people were all in the same division.

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Re: BRN4D Jackpots vs ABRA Jackpots format.

Postby jmonti » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:40 pm

Do you think that it would've worked better on the following payout:

Fast Time
Fast Time + .5
Fast Time + 1.00
Fast Time + 2.00

1D 18.000
2D 18.500 (.5)
3D 19.000 (.5)
4D 20.000 (1)

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Re: BRN4D Jackpots vs ABRA Jackpots format.

Postby wprodeo » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:04 pm

Hey, if you want to email me some results i could run the scenarios for you and see how the splits worked out.
wprodeo@telusplanet.net :)


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